About N2

N2: Numbers and Narrative

Numbers & Narrative is a long-form interview-based podcast. New podcast episodes air every Monday. Co-hosts Joe Flood and Renny McPherson interview an eclectic group of storytellers who love data and data junkies who tell great stories.

Joe and Renny first met in college. Both writers for the school newspaper, they were assigned to write an article together. They had to distill large amounts of data and show the stories behind the numbers. Since writing that first story over a decade ago, Joe and Renny have spent countless hours learning from, interviewing, and listening to people whose stories deserve a wide audience.

Through this podcast, they share their passion with a community of people who believe that Numbers & Narrative guests should be widely heard.


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